Saturday, February 14, 2009

"This Place is Death" Analysis!

Lots of analyzing to get to this week, so there's no time for an introspective, witty introductory paragraph. We need to get down to business!

 

Smokey. Out of nowhere Smokey made a surprise guest appearance this episode and revealed how integral he was to the CFL storyline. Remember how afraid I was that we wouldn't be able to get proper resolution to the CFL storyline due to the impending skip in time for Jin? I never imagined he could simply skip a few months into the future to give us a neat summary of the CFL Saga! This week, we learned the following details:

  • Smokey killed Nadine.
  • Smokey grabbed and pulled Montand into a hole in the ground (similar to what it attempted to do to Locke in Season One).
  • Once underground, Montand called out to his fellow Frenchmen to come help him.
  • CFL is the only one who did not follow, on Jin's insistence.
  • After this incident, Robert knew that Smokey was "not a monster, but a security system for the temple".
  • CFL shot and killed Lacombe and Brennan.
  • Robert tried to shoot and kill CFL, but she had removed the firing PIN.
  • CFL shot and killed Robert.


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When you think about it, this pretty much wraps up the CFL storyline. Aside from seeing Alex being born and "stolen", we've seen the major events of her life on the Island. While there are still questions surrounding her experience on the Island, they are questions that can easily be answered through the experiences of other characters on Lost. Although we don't know what "The Sickness" is yet, we now know it resulted from an encounter with Smokey. We saw that CFL had no choice but to kill her French Mates - because if she didn't, they would kill her. And we can assume that because she spent the next 16 years paranoid, afraid of Smokey, and all alone on the Island, she went crazy. With less than thirty episodes of Lost yet, I would wager this is the last we see of CFL.

 

So what did we learn from her story?

 

It's curious that Smokey killed Nadine, but grabbed and dragged Montand into a cerberus vent. Initially, you would think that Smokey would have either killed them all, or killed none of them - but instead, he was selective about who lived and who died. It makes you wonder if Smokey is really the one who determines who is "worthy" and who is not - and things like "Jacob's List" are created based on Smokey scanning people and learning about them (a la Eko in Season Three). Or perhaps - Smokey's initial instinct is to "kill" anything that intrudes on his Island, and only later calms down once he has a chance to learn if they present any harm or not. Remember, Nadine's death is pretty similar to what happened to the Pilot when Flight 815 crashed on the Island. Eaten up, spit out, and left on the top of a tree. It would also help explain why Smokey has been fairly non-existent in the past few seasons, while he was almost a weekly fixture in Season One. Back then, he was still learning about our Survivors, afraid of them, weeding out those who were not "worthy" - but once that was done, he left them alone, knowing that they were either destined to be there, or wouldn't bring about harm to the Island.

 

Back in Season One, when we spent hours a day trying to figure out what exactly Smokey was (using pseudo-science), the best answer anyone could come up with was that he was a cloud of nanobots. Someone on the Blog recommended that to learn more about nanobots, we read the Michael Crichton book "Prey" (since reading is for nerds, I instead listened to the book on CD). I won't get into all the details of the story - but pieces of the cloud of nanobots had the ability to "inhabit" a person in a sort of symbiotic / parasitic relationship, where they could control their thoughts and actions. Seeing "The Sickness" this week, it was the first thing I thought of.

  

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Although it's possible that Smokey dragged the members of CFL's crew underground and held an informative Q&A session about the Island, what he was, and why there was nothing to be afraid of, I think it's more likely that there is some degree of brainwashing / body-inhabiting going on. Smokey pulled Montand down, then used him to lure the other members of the crew down. Once there, Smokey "infected" them, turning them into Others / mindless zombies / soldiers for the Island / something else like that. Only CFL was "different", she since refused to go down (or couldn't fit down that hole since she was so pregnant - zing!). Could this be the same sort of "transformation" that we saw in characters like Cindy who seemed to suddenly become brainwashed Others overnight? Or is that a product of Krazy Karl's (RIP) Rave Room? Either way, it's becoming a little more clear how the Others seem to get people to be willing to die in order to protect the Island.

 

The nice thing is that this provides a pretty logical explanation to what "The Sickness" is (in CFL's eyes), and it has nothing to do with the 4-8-15-16-23-42 Injections that Ethan was giving to Claire, or cold-sweat hallucinations, or bleeding from the nose - which explains why we didn't see any of our Survivors come down with the symptoms in the three months they spent on the Island, even though CFL's crew became infected within the same period of time. It's not a product of shoddy writing and an abandoned storyline after all! In fact, this could be the explanation of what happened to Locke when he came face-to-face with Smokey in Season One, and how he gained such a deep respect and understanding of the Island. He's got a little bit of Smokey inside of him!

 

The one confusing piece to this puzzle is why Robert would be trying to kill CFL. It seems that she should have been either deemed "not worthy" - in which case, Smokey could have swooped in and killed her like Nadine - or she would have been deemed "worthy" - in which case Smokey would drag her underground to turn her into another happy member of the Others. But had she not pulled the firing pin from Robert's gun, he would have killed her. This may indicate that an encounter with Smokey might have some unintended side effects - aggression, urge to kill your love, ED, etc. I'm not sure if we'll ever get a firm answer to this last question - but on the whole, I'm pretty damn satisfied with the CFL storyline resolution we got in this episode.

  

The Temple. The other shocking reveal this week was our first glimpse at what might have been "The Temple". If you recall, over the last two seasons the Temple has been referenced a few times. Ben called it "a sanctuary and the last safe place on this Island" when the Others were hiding from Keamy and the Soldiers. If Smokey's Lair is underneath it, that makes total sense since you would have a built-in defense system there that could seriously mess up anyone that attempted to infiltrate its boundaries. This would seem to indicate that there is some type of mutual understanding / copasetic relationship between the Others and Smokey, where they would be able to go to the Temple without fear of Smokey attacking them. We know that Ben had the ability to "summon" Smokey, but up until this point it seems like the Others are just as afraid of him as anyone else (see: Juliet in Season Three). Perhaps you can chalk that up to Juliet still being an "outsider", which may also explain why she is skipping through time in the first place - as opposed to Alpert and the Others - but we really haven't seen any other Other / Smokey interactions thus far, have we?

 

If you operate under the assumption that only Others are immune from Smokey's wrath (because they are "chosen ones" in his eyes), it would explain why, when Karl asked if our Survivors could go with them to the Temple for sanctuary, Ben refused to allow it and said "it's not for them." It also must be somewhat of a top-secret place, even among the Others, since although Ben and Alpert talked freely about it - younger Others like Krazy Karl and Alex had never heard of it.

 

But for such a powerful and special place, it sure doesn't look like the Others have done a lot of upkeep on the place. It kinda looked like only two walls remained, mostly overtaken by Jungle. Maybe it's just the fact that Smokey lives underneath that makes it so special / important, rather than the building itself. Because if it looked like this in 1988, I can't imagine how shoddy it looked in 2005 when the Others went there for protection. I hope they brought their tents and supplies!


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We should note that this could all be a gross misassumption (is that a word?) on our part, and the crumbling ruin on top of Smokey’s Lair is not “The Temple” that we have heard referenced thus far in the series. But when you factor in Ben’s assertion that it’s the safest place in the Island, it seems logical that sitting behind a wall of badass Smokey fits the bill.

 

Charlotte. Just as I didn’t expect to see Smokey or the Temple this episode, you’ll remember that even though this week’s episode was titled “This Place is Death”, I didn’t really think that Charlotte would die this week. But yet again, I was wrong (where are those people who complain I ruin episodes for them with my guesses now? I’m 0 for 3 this week so far!) But before she died, she gave us a LOT of information to digest…

  • Charlotte began to demonstrate the same symptoms as Desmond and Minkowski, her mind jumping around through her life.
  • She confirmed that she grew up on the Island (but doesn’t say if she was actually BORN there or not).
  • She mentions the Dharma Initiative, which confirms her family was Dharma, and not Others.
  • She left with her mother, who then tried to convince her that the Island didn’t really exist.
  • She spent her life searching for the Island… and her father.
  • Faraday visited young Charlotte and told her to leave the Island and never come back or she would die.
  • Charlotte told Locke to look for a well if the Orchid doesn’t exist.
  • She warns Jin “don’t bring her back. This place is death.”

 

Seriously, we learned more about Charlotte in those two minutes than we did in the prior fifteen episodes that she was in. Theories abound about who Charlotte’s parents are, ranging from Pierre Chang (no) to Ben and Annie (maybe). But let’s not forget that Charlotte left the Island with her mother, and one would assume she stayed with her mother once she returned to the “real world”. According to Ben last season (when he was trying to prove to our Survivors what a danger Charlotte was), her parents were David and Jeannette. I would think if Ben was lying about this information, Charlotte would have instantly protested as a way to prove that Ben didn’t know who she was, and that she meant no harm to them. Jeannette does not equal Annie. It’s a fun thought, but based on the facts we have right now, I’m not on board yet.

 

The good news is that we should find out who Charlotte’s parents are within a matter of episodes, since we still need to see the scene of Faraday running into young Charlotte, warning her to leave the Island and never come back – and eventually proceeding to the Orchid to explain this season’s opening scene (more on this later).

 

How did she know about the well? I’m guessing that the well existed when Charlotte was a kid on the Island – heck, maybe even she discovered it playing in the Jungle someday – and once reported back to Dharma, which kicked off the construction of the Orchid as a way to harness the power there (so I’m thinking it went rope in the ground, which led to people digging in that spot in the first place, then well, then Orchid).

 

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Did the manner in which Charlotte eventually died (skipping around through her past memories) confirm that the symptoms she experienced are the same as Desmond and Minkowski? Does that mean having a Constant could save our Skipping Survivors?

 

I don’t think so.

 

The fundamental difference between Desmond/Minkowski and our Skipping Survivors is that our Skipping Survivors are actually, physically jumping around in time. Desmond/Minkowski were physically firmly existing in the present, and only their minds were jumping around in time. Even though towards the end, Charlotte started experiencing similar symptoms, I think the cause of those symptoms was the physical skips in time – and even if she had a Constant, it wouldn’t have helped. So while a Constant could stop the mind from becoming “unstuck” (which saved Desmond), it wouldn’t have stop our Survivors from skipping (which killed Charlotte) – especially since, if you remember – the Constant had to exist in the time where the mind existed as well as the time where the body existed… and have significance to the person. With as many times as the Skipping Survivors have been to, it’s safe to say that it would be IMPOSSIBLE for each of them to find someone that meets these criteria… plus, from a storytelling perspective, it’s been done.

 

The moral of the story is – I don’t think Constants have any bearing on our Skipping Survivors, even if the symptoms are similar.

 

At the end of the day, many are asking “so what was the point of Charlotte?” Initially, it doesn’t feel like her character had a lot of impact on any of the major storylines on Lost, making many question if her original purpose was lost due to the writers’ strike last season (the show’s creators did mention that she probably would have gotten more backstory last season if they had more episodes to work with). But I don’t think so.

 

I think that Charlotte’s purpose on the show was always to die.


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Faraday. This week, I started thinking about what the “big bad” of this season was going to end up being. In the first season, we had the impending danger of the Others coming – which drove the suspense and action of the storyline leading up to the season finale. In the second season, we had the Swan Hatch and Michael’s treachery. In the third season, we had the Looking Glass and contacting Naomi’s people. In the fourth season, we had the Freightors. But the more I think about the fifth season, the harder it is pinpoint what the “danger” is going to be that builds up towards the finale. It seems like the skipping in time has to be resolved fairly soon – or else all our Survivors are going to die like Charlotte. Likewise, it seems like the Oceanic Six (at least some of them) are going to be back on the Island within an episode or two as well. So what’s going to be the storyline that drives the second half of this season?

 

Faraday.

 

What if Charlotte’s death sets Daniel Faraday off the deep end? He becomes desperate and obsessed with finding a way to save her. This would explain why he would visit her as a youth and attempt to change the future – even though he knows it is not possible… unless of course, it is possible. We all seem to accept that Desmond has the ability to change the future thanks to his exposure to the “unique magnetic properties” of the Island. Well, why couldn’t Faraday similarly expose himself to similar powers to make himself just as special as Desmond?

 

What if that scene of Faraday that kicked off the season was the start of him attempting to expose himself to the high levels of “unique magnetic properties” on the Island so that he would gain the same abilities as Desmond, allowing him to somehow save Charlotte? Although I just rationalized that none of our Skipping Survivors need Constants, last year we saw that Faraday had written down “if anything goes wrong, Desmond will be my Constant”, which seems to indicate that he will be in the same boat as Desmond at some point in time. If Desmond got his powers by imploding the Swan Hatch, why couldn’t Faraday gain his powers by imploding the Orchid Station – which might be what he was about to do in the scene that opened Season Five.

 

How is this going to drive the storyline? Well, as I’ve mentioned before (but up to this point I was always applying the theory to Desmond), changing the past might accidentally bring about the destruction of the world, the shattering of the space-time continuum, and the end of existence as we know it. Faraday is thinking that he is saving the girl he loves, but in reality, he’s risking bringing about the end of the world. Remember that whatever happened, happened. If Faraday is able to make that no longer be true, it’s going to be bad news for everyone. That sets up a second half of the season where our reunited Survivors have a new mission – stopping Faraday from ending existence (in addition to figuring out the mysteries of the Island, tangling with the Others, etc).

 

We’ve always had good vs. evil, light vs. dark on Lost. Under this scenario, we could have Desmond vs. Faraday – both able to change time, one who is attempting to do it, one who is working to stop it. I think it could work – and it would help explain why it is so critical that the Oceanic Six return to the Island… they have to stop Faraday at all costs.

 

Yeah – it’s a wacky theory, but I think it works in many ways. Let’s remember that as this episode ended, Faraday was all on his own with Dead Charlotte. There’s no one there to talk reason with him. He could easily come up with this insane theory in his head and have no one normal there to tell him how crazy it is. Of course, for any of this to happen, our Survivors would have to be in the past, which brings up another big question from the episode.

 

Time. Since when Ben turned the FDW, it was accompanied by a bright light that skipped all our Survivors in time (and space?), it’s reasonable to think that when Locke righted the FDW and it was accompanied by a bright light, it would have skipped all our Survivors again. The question is – with the FDW now back on its axis, does the skipping stop? I think there are two possibilities:


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1. The Skipping Stops. In this scenario, our Survivors are “stuck” in 1980 or earlier. Why this timeframe? Because we know that at some point, Faraday is inside the Orchid while it is being built, and visits a young Charlotte on the Island. This isn’t to say that the Survivors couldn’t be all the way back in the 1800’s or earlier, but eventually, they will have to exist in the timeline that we saw in the opening scene of the season.

 

This raises the question – would they continue to age, or would they stay the same age until they “catch up” to their proper time? If they do not age, we might have an explanation for why Alpert doesn’t age – because he’s from some future timeline and just got sent way back in the past when someone turned the FDW. It also would allow our Survivors to live a full life on the Island (or more) waiting for 2005 to come, when they would start aging again.

 

If this were true, in order to survive on the Island, I think our Survivors would have to become Others or Dharma (once Dharma arrives) – which could be a cool way for the audience to learn more about these groups. But this theory also has some holes – like what happens in 2004 when Oceanic Flight 815 crashes? They couldn’t just rejoin the Survivors yet, but also couldn’t risk running into them. So would they be sequestered off somewhere to wait from 2004 until 2005, when the Oceanic Six leave? Also, if this were the case, wouldn’t the Others raise some questions when they see characters like Sawyer, Jin, and Juliet on the Island – like “wait a minute, you look just like these other people who have been here for years and mysteriously never aged!”

 

Basically, this is the “fun but complicated” theory – like that hot girl full of wacky emotional issues and baggage. Then there is the other option:

 

2. The Skipping Continues. If the skipping continues, then our Survivors are still in big time trouble. Eventually, they are all going to suffer the same fate as Charlotte unless someone can figure out how to make it stop – and if Locke “fixing” the FDW didn’t do it, then I’m guessing nothing on the Island can actually make it stop, and we’re somehow relying on the Oceanic Six to return and make everything better (logically, how this would help, I have no idea!)

 

But under this scenario, it offers a simple conclusion to the open storylines. At some point, Faraday is in 1980, talks to Charlotte, visits the Orchid, etc. Later, our Survivors skip to 2008, which happens to coincide with when the Oceanic Six return to the Island, the skipping stops, and everyone is happy.

 

It works – but definitely isn’t as sexy as the first option, in my mind. It’s a good option to take home to mom and marry, but not as much fun.

 

Wrap-Up Thoughts. Okay, once again I’ve rambled on far too long and still have a number of things to mention, so we’ll do it quick and dirty:

  • Huge irony that Jin gave the ring to Locke as a way to prove that he was dead, but Ben turns it around and uses it to prove that he is alive. Jin is going to be pissed at Benjamin Linus when he returns to the Island.
  • We’ve now had Ghost Claire tell Kate “don’t bring him back”, and Creepy Charlotte tell Jin “don’t bring her back.” We all assume the first one meant Aaron, so should we assume that the second one means Ji-Yeon? Or Sun? What is going to happen if they come back to the Island?
  • Christian Shephard definitely appears to be the “new Jacob” for Locke. Since he came to the Island dead and became the spiritual advisor for the leader of the Others, does that mean that Locke will come back to the Island dead and become the spiritual advisor for the new leader of the Others (Walt / Aaron / Jack / Ben)?
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  • I’ve posed this question before – but did Ben intentionally break the FDW when he turned it? Is this just another example of him outsmarting Locke and finding a way for him to “need” to come back to the Island (bringing the Oceanic Six)? You could argue that he talked Locke into turning the FDW for him, possibly because he knew what the results would be. He went from being a leader on the outs to being a leader who could save the Island by bringing the Oceanic Six back. But how could he possibly know what was going to happen?
  • When Ben blew up on Jack and Sun in the van, he mentioned “how much he’s done to protect them and their friends”. Have they really been in danger all this time, with Ben (and Sayid) working behind the scenes to protect them? Or is this an example of Ben saying the right thing at the right time to gain sympathy and ensure he doesn’t get killed? Hopefully we’ll learn more about this in the next few episodes as we learn what happened when Locke left the Island.
  • At the end of “The Lie”, Ms. Hawking (who is now confirmed to be Faraday’s Mom) said that if Ben couldn’t bring all the members of the Oceanic Six back within 70 hours, then “God help us all”. This week, Ben tells her that Jack and Sun are the best he could do, and she says “all right, let’s get started.” Huh? How could something go from “we need everyone or God help us all” to “Eh, two out of six ain’t bad. Let’s do it.” I’m guessing there are going to be repercussions if not all the members of the Oceanic Six are included (like people will die or things get more complicated). We also still don’t know how Desmond fits into all this – even though I would argue he’s the most important person to go back to the Island so that we can have the battle of “Specials” that can change the past.
  • Oh – and for everyone complaining about Desmond not freaking out and recognizing Ms. Hawking as the person from “Flashes Before Your Eyes”, give it time. I would expect that recognition to come early in next week’s episode. He only saw Ms. Hawking in the last minute of the episode, so there wasn’t a ton of time for him to freak out… but I would expect it’s on the way!

 

Okay – enough about me, what about you? Let’s discuss.


Go!

 

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34 comments:

Anonymous said...

awsome Brian man! alot for us to ponder due to your analysis!

Unknown said...

At the end of this episode, I kept waiting for the camera to center on Desmond, so we could see the utterly blown-away look on his face.

Anonymous said...

As far as Ms. Hawking doing a 180 on needing everyone to go back, remember that the event window is/was 70 hours. You gotta go to the island with the people you got. She has no choice. Might as well accept the cards you are dealt.

Anonymous said...

Q: Didnt Desmond became "special" because the hatch imploding? I keep finding a reason why he is the key to all...

Q: Why was Faraday crying at the beginning of the past season? I also keep wondering why.

A.J

Anonymous said...

How about the Purge ? If our survivors are stuck as dharma initiatives members, this could be a huge challenge for them until the end of the season ?

I really can't believe how Daniel could turn bad, especially since he is the one best-knowing the time travel rules (i.e. : whatever happens, happen)

ST

Anonymous said...

If Locke moving the FDW stop the skipping, why do Oceanic 6 really need to go back? Is it another "strategy" from Ben? Can't wait...

TheycallmeVic said...

Great analysis Brian, just 1 thing I'm not agreeing with.
In your point #1, to say that Alpert is from the future and therefore doesn't age, makes no sense whatsoever (at least to me). Because if that was the case there would have to be 2 Alperts walking around the island, and the 1950's one would still have to look younger than his 2000's one (which is the one time traveling).
Am I making any sense??

I think if they stay stuck in the past, they will age, and eventually die. I think the Adam and Eve cadavers prove that.

Also, why do people say Desmond didn't react to seeing Ms. Hawking? he clearly was shocked upon seeing her, you can see it in his face.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the only reason Locke turned the wheel was because it was the only way for him to get off the island, not to stop the flashes. That would explain why Locke had to turn the wheel and why the O6 still have to come back.

Anonymous said...

I also agree with Victor. Desmond looked pretty surprised to me when he saw Ms. Hawking.

Anonymous said...

Brian:

The Temple we saw could have just been an outer wall. Also, the producers on their most recent podcast said that Smokey didn't live at the Temple, but likened it to a summer home.

Regarding the FDW, I'm thinking that Ben did dislodge the wheel, and that the skips may keep happening but will be less frantic and uncontrolled. I mean something has to be fixed by it.

Also, I think Ben really was helping keep them safe, but at the same time may have thrown in a few of his own tasks into the mix, which may have caused the falling out with Sayid. I'm sure Ms. Hawking isn't trying to further Ben's motives, and she may even be being duped by Ben herself, if he's the only communication she's had from the island.

ST: We don't actually know that Faraday was telling the whole truth with "whatever happened, happened", or that he doesn't care to try finding the loopholes. He certainly tried once with Desmond.

VictorC: I agree with you, the non-aging time travel theory doesn't make much sense to me.

Craig said...

I think, logically, the skipping should end when the FDW wasn't skipping as we last saw, but the question of the O6 returning to the island is more of a 'destiny' thing i.e. they shouldn't have left, and they need to go back or the rest of the world is in peril, whatever, but not just the island or people on it.

Great analysis again Brian, thanks, and quick as well

Brian said...

So is the general assumption that the reason the rope was in the ground, possibly eventually leading Dharma to build the Orchid there, is because Sawyer was holding the rope when they skipped, and therefor the rope skipped too? Seems shaky.

When we see Locke in the cave at the bottom, when he breaks his leg and his bone is sticking out through his pants, there's no rope down there...

Fidel J. said...

I wonder, in a paradoxical(is that even a word) way, If Jin had not been there to warn CFL away from going in the hole, would she have still not gone down?

Anonymous said...

J, that's the big question: Did our characters actually have to tell the people from the past to do things in order for them to make the choices they did? This, I think, will be key to the show.

Ellis, I think Locke was holding a rope, but it had rotted out and was no longer connected to the rope above.

Smaelb said...

Victor,maybe Richard comes from a very far future,so the "real" richard isn't on the island, maybe not even born. That's shaky too, but the "stuck in time" theory may well explain his non-agingness.

Prachi said...

Since Locke turned the FDW, he is off the island. But we don't know where or when.. (as shown by Ben when he turned the wheel and had to inquire what year it was)

It would be a pretty big coincidence if Locke ends up in the same year as when the O6 are off the island.

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Unknown said...

Long time reader first time comment

I think Charlotte’s purpose has always been to lead Locke to the FDW (or help him off the island somehow). Without her, he would have had a hard time finding it.

Daniel going back in time and trying to stop her is proof that he can't change what is supposed to happen.

Similar to Desmond trying to save Charlie in season 3. No matter what Desmond tried to do, "You're going to die Charlie" (it's not as cool unless it's heard Desmond's accent)

Charlotte's destiny was to help Locke get off the Island and once she did that, she served her purpose, and could then die. No matter what Daniel tries to do, he will fail until she serves this purpose.

TheycallmeVic said...

Smaelb, I know what you mean. It could very well be possible, as Brian speculates. I'm just not on board with it, at least not right now.

Ellis, the rope skipping with them because they were holding it is not shaky at all.
Notice that everything they touch skips with them: their clothing, bullet in Locke's leg, the canoe they were on, etc.

When Locked landed in the cave, they never showed the rope, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there. Plus it was dark.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Victor. The rope may have stayed because Sawyer was touching it, and maybe the rope being there is why DHARMA (or someone else) dug the well. When the flash happened, Locke let go of the rope (http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/353cad7a4c38af9ed244536fe278acbb) so that's why there's no rope at the bottom of the cave.

Anonymous said...

My only quarrel with the revelation of CFL’s backstory: I re-watched the episode in which she tells captured Sayid about what happened to her party, and she said something like, “We managed to survive here for 2 months and then the sickness came”—when the resolution involving Jin appeared to take much less time than that, like less than a day.

It always seems to me that the skippers only stay in one place for a period of hours at the longest—have we seen them sleep yet? Maybe after they paddled the canoes in--it was dark then.

Anonymous said...

Di....I would have been very surprised and supremely impressed if C&L wrote, back when CFL's story line originally was revealed to us, an indication that real clarity existed from the writters on her exact situation.

singhy said...

Very interesting analysis Brian mate, thank you. Couple of thoughts:

- Faraday being the baddie does seem a little out there to me; I'm not convinced. However I thought your theory of the wheel not having being turned properly was a little 'crazy' though, and you were absolutely right, so I'm keeping an open mind! ;-)

- Victor, very good point about Alpert. I think that suggests there is another (more intriguing) cause of Alpert's eternal youth

- We've seen a number of times that what you have with you when you skip, also skips e.g. Locke's compass, the outrigger boat and now the rope Sawyer is holding. However that the rope caused the well to be dug seems a little odd to me. Let's not forget that the FDW, with its cavern, was still there even before the rope, well or Orchid station (and the first ep of the season suggested the FDW wasn't found until after they started to build the station). So the FDW came first and that is the big question - who put it there, and how?

Anonymous said...

not sure Brian was suggesting Faraday may become a "bad guy" as compared to a guy blinded by love and following his heart to prevent Charlotte from dying. as a result, his actions (if this is the story written) may have dire consequences.

Anonymous said...

Hey, Like your analysis.

And don't worry Brian, I get what your talking about with the Alpert aging theory and agree that it could be a (very complicated) way of explaining things.

Brian said...

Exactly. I was not inferring that Faraday is "evil", but becomes the season's "enemy" because his actions to save Charlotte may have unintended consequences.

Anonymous said...

Hey Anon at 9:28. Didn't Micheal become that same bad guy because he just wanted his son back. I can just hear Meatloaf singing in the back of my mind, "And I would do anything for Love, But I won't do that." I wonder if destroying the world by messing with timelines is "that" for Daniel.

Anonymous said...

hey Ben...u r right. no suggestion Faraday would think this is justifyable but just him reacting, from his heart, as opposed to his mind.

Chris DZ said...

The well and Dharma cannot be linked in my opinion. The only way Dharma sees the FDW is through the scans they performed while digging and building the Orchid as referenced in the first episode with Dr. Candle. Also, when Locke was at the bottom of the well, it seems the FDW is just right around the corner, not hard to find. Anyone who dug this well down to this cave would have found the FDW with ease.

Jana said...

When you said, "...the destruction of the world, the shattering of the space-time continuum, and the end of existence as we know it..." I immediately thought of the good ol' computer in the hatch - you know, the one with the button that had to be pushed to keep the world from eding. I wonder if the button could have anything to do with Faraday going back to the past?

TheycallmeVic said...

I was reading in another blog about the numbers broadcast that Montand picked up on his radio.
If you listen closely, it sounds like Faraday or Hurley.

To me it really sounds like Hurley, and given his history with the numbers, it's extremely interesting.

Anonymous said...

So... people dig wells so that they can get water.

The water from the well would have been in very close proximity to the FDW and the unique energies of the island.

I wonder what drinking said water would do to a person?

Anonymous said...

Brian, good review as usual. I do think the comment on Carthage means a lot. Ben did appear in Tunisia, She did find the polar bears in tunisia, and Carthage is there as well. If she was learning about Carthage to get back to the island, I think this is a strong clue that she saw some things as a child that led her to study that area. And it's connection with Rome(latin) and proximity to Egypt helps explain the statue and the heiroglyphics.

Also, conserning 'nerds' Brian, it's too late. You write this cool blog, you're already there. Embrase it, it can be cool!
OK, there is a debate of Nerd or Geek, I consider a Geek defined as 'someone who gets so involved in something that that know far more than most people care about'. You have Fantasy Football geeks, computer geeks, lost geeks. Nothing wrong with that.

A Nerd as someone who takes it too far.. or us just plain out of touch. A geek doesn't have to be a nerd, but a nerd can be a geek. Running this blog is cool, but if you started writing lost fan fiction, or shaved your head and dressed up as Locke, you would have crossed into nerddom.

Embrase the inner geek! We love you for it!

Anonymous said...

Just a general OT comment...with Dish not offering local channels in HD, I have to say that watching the reruns on A&E in HD have been AMAZING. Also, as drawn-out as many of the old episodes seemed, it's really cool to go back and watch it knowing the things we do now.

ie. - in season 1 when Jack sees his dad, and it's chalked up to hallucinations, little did we know that his dad could be the spiritual leader of the island! great stuff!