Sunday, March 28, 2010

"Ab Aeterno" Analysis!

The fundamental theme of Lost, from the very start, has been redemption. The series opened with a group of strangers – all of whom had pretty troubled / tragic pasts, ending up on an Island where they had a chance to start fresh. In the third hour of the series, “Tabula Rasa”, Jack told Kate that their past lives were no longer important… and that they “all died” when their plane crashed. This week, we saw Jacob tell Richard that he brings people to the Island to prove to Anti-Jacob that people can be good – and that once they arrive on the Island, their past doesn’t matter.


In effect, Lost Island offers the chance to put your past behind you and start over – to find out if you have the inner-strength to let your past go, if you could do better the second time around. That’s what Jacob is hoping for – that in this scenario people will choose good over evil. On the other hand, Anti-Jacob has hundreds of years of evidence to backup his argument – that regardless of the fresh start, even if people are given a new start, they’ll still corrupt, kill, and end up evil.


In the comments for this week’s episode, I found a lot of people complaining that the Lost storyline we’ve been following for the past five seasons has been reduced to a battle between two god-like creatures – one of whom is “pure evil”, and that nothing in the first five seasons really matters. But they’re kinda missing the point. Lost has always been about redemption. The introduction of Jacob and Anti-Jacob has simply introduced physical manifestations for the “good” and “evil” we’ve always been talking about. Rather than our Survivors choosing to make good or bad decisions in their personal lives, they are now choosing to follow a good or bad entity.


Lost is still about what it has always been about – what happens to a group of flawed individuals who are given the chance to redeem themselves. Only now instead of just worrying about the personal outcome for each Survivor, their actions and decisions just might save or destroy the world.



Now that’s what you call “raising the stakes”.



In The Beginning. During my Instant Reactions, I jotted down a few examples of one of my long-standing theories about Lost – that although JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof claim they had the first five or six seasons of Lost planned from the start, they still wrote the first season in a way that they could wrap a shortened version of the same story up in one year, just in case the show was unsuccessful and not renewed for a second season.


What I did this week was go through an episode by episode review of Season One to find parallels between the first season of Lost and the last season of Lost – and I was pretty surprised to see how many there were. Why did I do this? I think a lot of us have built up a lot of questions and “Lost baggage” over the past five seasons, where the writers have created such a mountain of unanswered questions that we obsess over some of the more minor ones instead of seeing the “big picture” stuff we should really be caring about. By looking at Season One, I’m hoping we have a better understanding of Season Six – and if we’re really lucky, maybe it’ll even help us predict where this final season of Lost is headed.


Queue the Lost flashback whoosh…


In the first episode of Lost, Shannon translated CFL’s message being broadcast from the radio tower to “I'm alone now, on the island alone. Please someone come. The others are dead. It killed them. It killed them all." We now know that she is crazy – that she was far from “alone” on the Island, and that there were a ton of Others living on the Island (that she was well aware of, since they stole Alex from her), and that she actually killed her team – but it’s easy to see how the writers could have changed the story to have something similar to Alpert’s first On-Island experience. CFL and Crew crash on the Island. “It” (Smokey) kills them all, and leaves her alone.


In the third episode of Lost, Locke encountered Smokey in the Jungle – and seemingly was never the same again. Would it have been so far fetched to have it revealed that the “real Locke” was actually killed and everything we saw with Locke from that point forward was actually SmokeLocke?


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In the next few episodes, we would see Locke mysteriously knowing a lot more about the Island than he should and setting up the other Survivors like chess pieces. He is instrumental in helping Jack find the caves, which leads to a split between the Survivors into two groups:


  • The Cave Group: Jack, Locke, Hurley, Sun, and Jin (along with some dead characters)
  • The Beach Group: Kate, Sawyer, Sayid (along with some dead characters)


Look familiar? It’s nearly the same two groups that we have today!


It’s also not hard to see how the “whispers” from Season One could have become “being claimed” in Season Six. In Season One, we had CFL and Sayid hearing the whispers. Now we’ve got Crazy Claire and Sayid as the potentially “claimed”.


Characters aside, there’s one other big thing that jumped out at me in reviewing Season One: Rousseau points out that the Numbers “brought her to the Island”, and rationalizes that they were also responsible for bringing Hurley (and the rest of the Oceanic 815 Survivors) there as well. Let’s see, some mysterious magical thing “bringing people to the Island”? Sounds a hell of a lot like Jacob, doesn’t it? In fact, you could almost trace the decline of the appearance of the Numbers on Lost with the rise of Jacob storylines. Like I said before, the physical manifestation of something more nebulous!


So if the Numbers became Jacob, what about Anti-Jacob?


Let’s think about the Hatch. Remember how Walt, who knew nothing about the Hatch, begged our Survivors not to open it? Knowing everything we know about Desmond and the Swan Station now, does that make any sense? No. But what if there was something evil inside – something “pure evil” that was being contained by a Hatch, instead of black ash? Then it would make perfect sense. Anti-Jacob is leading Locke on a mission to open the Hatch to release the evil.


By the end of the first season, everything was building towards a battle / debate between Jack and Locke about opening that Hatch. Jack was even making promises about killing Locke. We’ve seen that same tension bubble up on numerous occasions over the years, so it would make sense that we’re going to see it happen one final time as we speed towards the series finale.


In short – in the first season, we had two opposing forces on the Island dividing up our Survivors in a battle between possibly releasing evil into the world… unless our view of “good” and “evil” is being incorrectly skewed by what we’re being told by a number of characters known for lying to reach their own goals.


Sound familiar?


While the previous four seasons have definitely enhanced the storyline, our understanding of the characters (and the Island), added fantastic new characters and sub-storylines, and infinitely raised the stakes of the actions our Survivors take on the Island, in the end I think it all boils down to the same thing – our Survivors dividing up into two groups, each believing their side is “right” and then seeing how it all plays out when they make the decision to open the Hatch / blow up the Island / pop the cork (that sounds dirty).


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Of course the only problem with this is that from the start, I have been calling for the finale of Lost to pull the rug out from under us and reveal that what we thought was “good” is actually “bad” and vice versa. For that to be the case in this final season, it would mean that Anti-Jacob is actually the good guy and Jacob is actually the bad guy… and I have a really hard time justifying that logic. But in the end, it’s gotta come down to Locke on one side and Jack on the other, with a big decision at hand… and potentially the fate of the world at stake.


Okay, that was a fun exercise. But wasn’t there a Lost episode this week that needs analyzing?



Jacob. I have to admit, I thought long and hard about exactly who or what Jacob is after this week’s episode – and I still have no idea. Here’s what doesn’t add up – it seems like he was on the Island as a child (based on the bloody Young Jacob that SmokeLocke saw earlier this season) – but then aged until the point that we see in his appearance today. So he must have gained this eternal life at some point after arriving on the Island. Could it be that he had a similar experience to Richard Alpert and met some mysterious being on the Island who gave him this “gift”? But then what happened to this original Jacob on the Island? Were Jacob and Anti-Jacob part of their own “loophole” scheme after they arrived on the Island, with each then assuming the roles of two former god-like beings on the Island? He told Alpert that he couldn’t forgive his sins or bring his wife back from the dead – but he did have the ability to grant everlasting life. He’s not God – but he has the power to make people live forever. What does that make him? Where does his power come from? Where did it originally come from?


But what if Jacob doesn’t really have all the power that we think he does? What if he just knows how to “work the system” of the Island’s unique powers and abilities to make it appear as though he’s responsible for these magical acts? He tells Anti-Jacob that he is the one who “brings” the people to the Island… when really it’s just coincidence and bad luck that brings the people to the Island. We saw NOTHING to indicate that he had any hand in bringing the Black Rock to the Island. We know that it was DESMOND who caused Oceanic 815 to crash on the Island, not anything that Jacob did. For that matter, if Jacob was the one responsible for bringing everyone to the Island, why did he bring the US Military to the Island, only to later have his followers kill them? Why did he bring Dharma to the Island, only to later have his followers kill them in the Purge? Or, as we saw in this episode, why bring the Black Rock to the Island only to have Smokey immediately kill all the people onboard, aside from Richard, who Smokey spared only to try and kill Jacob? How do any of these actions help him prove humanity’s worth to Anti-Jacob?


They don’t. At all.


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If you think about, the only supporting evidence we have to Jacob’s claims that he “brings people to the Island” (as he told Alpert this week) is that he touched our Survivors before they arrived on the Island. But we already established that it was Desmond that truly brought them to the Island.


(The opposing argument here is that Jacob brought Dharma to the Island to build the Swan Hatch and Desmond to the Island to not push the button, which means he really was responsible for Oceanic 815 crashing – but that still doesn’t explain why he would bring people to the Island only to have them slaughtered upon arriving).


Similarly, this episode made it appear as though Jacob “granted” Alpert’s wish to live forever by touching him – but what if he really just sent Richard to take a dip in a magical Fountain of Youth pool that’s on the Island, and that’s what makes you stop aging?


I guess what I’m getting at is that we don’t have any proof about Jacob’s abilities – at least not yet. He might just be a guy using the magic of the Island (which includes a lighthouse that lets you see anything in the world and a FDW that might let you travel through time) to appear bigger and better than he really is. If I had both of those abilities, you better believe I would be able to make myself seem like “god” as well… also I would be really good at playing the stock market.



Anti-Jacob. Then there’s Anti-Jacob, with just as many mysteries surrounding him. We saw this week that he had the ability to quickly kill anyone who arrived on the Island – aside from Alpert, who he scanned, and then saw a chance to use in an effort to kill Jacob – so why didn’t he wipe out EVERYONE who came to the Island right from the start? It’s not as though Dharma had those Smokey-repelling pylons built from the start. He could have killed them – as well as all of our Survivors – as soon as they arrived on the Island. But he didn’t. Why?


Again, you could argue that it was all part of some huge, really complicated master plan – that Dharma was needed so that Ben would be on the Island, so that Anti-Jacob could eventually use him as part his loophole plan to take out Jacob – but if Anti-Jacob really was aware of the list of Candidates in his cave, why didn’t he at least kill them when they arrived on the Island? Maybe I’m missing some subtle influence that a character like Sun / Jin / Hurley had in the loophole plan, but it seems like he really just needed to keep Jack and Locke alive to reach the same result.


I think this is where the “Touch of Jacob” comes into play. Rather than the “Touch of Jacob” bringing the people to the Island, I think it protects them from Smokey once they arrive there. This would also explain why SmokeLocke is going through all the hassle of manipulating characters like Sawyer rather than smashing them to a pulp. I guess in a perfect world, Jacob should have gone around and touched EVERYONE before they arrived on the Island to protect them once they got there – but apparently even he doesn’t have that kind of time on his hands.


Earlier we established that Jacob must have been a child at some point who gained all these mysterious powers – but Anti-Jacob’s past is even more mysterious. Unlike Jacob, he’s actually told us a little bit about his past… but that doesn’t make understanding it any easier. Here are his claims:


  • He was once a man.
  • He knows joy, anger, fear, and betrayal.
  • He knows what it is to lose someone you love.
  • He had a crazy mother that gave him issues he’s still trying to overcome.
  • He had his body and humanity taken by “the devil” (Jacob).
  • He is trapped on the Island, and just wants to go home.


The majority of his claims seem reasonable enough, and paint the picture of both Jacob and Anti-Jacob being on the Island together as normal people, living normal lives – but then at some point things changed and he became the yin to Jacob’s yang. Based on my previous “Jacob doesn’t really have magical powers” theory, Anti-Jacob probably blames Jacob for losing his body and becoming Smokey – but it probably wasn’t actually caused by Jacob touching him or snapping his fingers.


Instead, I’m envisioning some scenario where Anti-Jacob dies or is dying (maybe at the hand of Jacob) – and has his spirit claimed by Smokey – basically “becoming Smokey”. He’s alive, and he now lives forever like Jacob – but unlike Jacob, he’s trapped on the Island. Maybe living forever seemed like a good idea at the time (just like it did for Alpert), but now he wants to “go home”, which might simply mean to die, or become human again so that he can die. Perhaps leaving the Island doesn’t release evil to the world, but changes him back to a mere mortal, where he could finally die.


This would go a long way in achieving my preferred ending for Lost – where our impression of good and evil are turned on their heads… but it would take away the established drama and importance of this final season with our Survivors trying to save the world.


In the end, I’ll just say this – Anti-Jacob is clearly a “bad guy”. We don’t know if Jacob is really responsible for bringing people to the Island or not – but we do know that once they get there, Smokey has killed a lot of them… and that’s not good. However, is he really pure evil, or is this just a product of a very angry being that has been trapped on the Island for hundreds of years? If he was once a man, I don’t know that he could really be “pure evil”, unless the act of becoming Smokey was the equivalent of selling your soul to the devil – and at the same time becoming one with him.



The Cork. For the sake of analysis, let’s assume that everything is at face value. Jacob is good. Anti-Jacob is bad (“malevolence, evil, darkness”). The Island is the force that keeps this bad stuff in one place – to keep it from spreading to the rest of the world. It’s the cork in the bottle.


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The interesting thing about Jacob’s analogy is that it doesn’t seem to be accurate. Based on the conversation between Jacob and Anti-Jacob it’s actually Jacob – or his replacement if he dies – that is keeping Anti-Jacob on the Island, which is why if Anti-Jacob can kill them all, he’ll be free to leave.


This means that it’s really not a big deal that the Island is at the bottom of the ocean in the Flash Sideways. All that matters is if the Candidates are alive or not. If they are alive, Anti-Jacob is trapped on the Island. If they are dead, all sorts of bad stuff could be spreading all over the world.


Here’s a thought – we’ve talked about our characters making a “deal with the devil”, represented by what we are seeing in the Flash Sideways – having their consciousness transferred to an alternate reality to continue living “happily ever after” even if things end super depressing on the Island in the first reality. I don’t really have the science or logic behind how this could happen, but I could totally picture an ending to Lost that features the last Candidate (and I’m picturing Jack) locking himself in some airtight place on the Island and intentionally sinking it as a way to forever trap Anti-Jacob on the Island and prevent anyone else from ever coming to the Island to help him escape through another loophole. Imagine how sad that final scene would be! Jack making the ultimate sacrifice of living forever, trapped under the sea with Anti-Jacob, in an effort to save all his friends… and the world.


Actually, that might be too depressing, even for me.



Richard Alpert. Finally, we should probably touch on the man of the hour – Richard Alpert. It’s somewhat fitting that after being told “the only way to return to God’s grace is through penance” – but he didn’t have enough time left in his life pre-Island to give enough penance… only to end up on the Island where he has spent hundreds of years in “hell”, doing what he thinks is serving some greater purpose against forces of evil. Sounds like plenty of penance to me. I think Alpert has one job left, and once that job is complete, he’ll get his happy ending – which is being able to die and join Isabella wherever she is (heaven?)… Alpert has to stop SmokeLocke from leaving the Island.


When I first started this Blog, I had a theory in my head that Richard might be the only person capable of “killing” SmokeLocke. Why? Because Anti-Jacob actually touched Alpert first and made a deal with him. It took Ben, a follower of Jacob, to kill him. It would make sense that Alpert, who was initially, temporarily, a follower of Anti-Jacob, could kill him. But then I realized that this would mean one of our Survivors would then have to become the new “pure evil”, and I don’t see that happening, even to someone like Sayid who seems to have lost his soul.


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Let’s go back to my super depressing ending. SmokeLocke and Jack sitting in some airtight room at the bottom of the ocean, forced to hang out with each other for all eternity. I hope one of them brings cards.


So where does Richard come into play? Although he didn’t know anything about the Candidates or the loophole, he probably does know pretty much every square inch of the Island. After all, he’s been there longer than anyone else outside of Jacob and Anti-Jacob. I’m guessing Richard is about to take our Survivors to some new location of the Island that’ll be their home base for the final “Battle for the Island”.


We’ve got three potential “teams” on the Island right now (Team Jacob, Team SmokeLocke, and Team Widmore) – although Widmore might actually be on one of the two other teams. The goal of Team SmokeLocke is easy. Kill the Candidates, get off the Island. But what is the goal of Team Jacob? Killing SmokeLocke? Maybe. Trapping him on the Island for good? More likely.


Okay – I think that’s enough crazy for this week.


Until Tuesday, Go Dayton Flyers!


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22 comments:

Rob Patterson said...

great parallels to season 1. I guess we will never really know if thats true unless the writers come clean some time later, but that sounds pretty good.

I think the point myself and everyone else was making wasn't the pointlessness of the past 4 seasons, but just that they don't have any real bearing on our current story line other then coloring in characters and providing back story. Lost will always be some of the best storytelling in my opinion, so it has been an enjoyable ride, but a lot of stuff doesn't play in significantly right now.

interesting theory on jacob, i guess at this point we know more about Smokey then jacob, i hadn't realized this.

As for the ending, if the flash sideways isn't the ending, i can't figure out how it could be important other then showing the island wasn't too bad afterall.

Chris said...
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Chris said...

I think at this point the writers are going to have to do something extremely out of the box, even for them, to have an ending that I would find amazing.

Vidya said...

I think the "Loophole" for killing Jacob was finding somebody who, "hated" him, wouldn't be "influenced" when he talks and was not touched by Jacob, to kill him.

stormko said...

Hey, one thing that I noticed while watching the show, but haven't heard anyone comment on in podcasts or blogs, is how there is a cut on Man in Black's hand when he touches Richard. You can even see it in the picture in this post (above).

If the actor just happened to have a cut on his knuckle, the make-up department would have covered it up for that close-up shot. It's just too obvious. Now, what is means, I have no idea.

Did anyone else notice that, or have a thought? I don't think it's a mistake.

MoGlee said...

What if the child we saw was not Jacob, but Anti-Jacob himself as a child - he did say he had a crazy abusive mother right? That would explain AJs shock on seeing himself. I am not sure why he would appear like that - perhaps there is something in what AJ said in this episode - the devil stole my body, he stole my soul...

omanni said...

I was nearly giving up with Lost. I thought this season six was a way out of bounds and the writers have spoiled the show, but after reading this analysis I changed my mind. Those references to season one where great! Now I can see what's going on. Thanks Brian, I couldn't understand it without you. :D

göklemez said...

another perspective or Continuing to brian's analogy;

desmond was contained in the hatch witout his will, like the entity in jacob's cabin.

So we can predict desmond is the new jacob or more tragically, he is the new antijacob.

Island hasn't done with him yet.

noemailformeadows said...

Seasons 1-3 of the show were and probably will continue to be some of the best television ever made. The way this season ends isn't gonna change that. Those first 3 seasons were addictive as crack

Andy said...

Brian, excellent analysis as always--the parallels to season one really shed some light on the thematic material of this final season.

Your idea about someone sacrificing his/herself by somehow sinking the island to trap the MIB forever @ the bottom of the ocean is really intriguing--though I think a character like Ben, Richard, Sawyer or Sayid making this sacrifice would be a little less depressing, as none of them necessarily have a whole lot to go home to... but how do you sink an island? Granted this is no regular island--as it can move through space and time, but if it's a "cork" above some great evil energy, how can it lower itself without releasing/running into whatever it is corking up? I guess the island could've hypothetically moved to an area where the water was so deep that the island is in fact fully submerged, but this seems hokey to me as the island has seemingly been moving for a very long time without this ever happening (that we know of).

Though I can understand the frustration of the show boiling down to a game between two demi-gods, I don't think it cheapens anything that has happened in the first five seasons. Each of the seasons has allowed the main characters to develop and grow as people, struggiling with the mysteries of the island and their respective reasons for being on the island. Every group of people that end up on the island are given the opportunity to either live in concert with it (the good side), or to exploit the island for selfish reasons (opposing the others or drilling into secret pockets of energy). Even the others eventually become split into a hippie/spiritual group and a science barracks group. Ultimately, this Jacob/Anti-Jacob experiment has proved time and time again that mankind is neither entirely good nor entirely bad--which has basically locked them in stalemate---until now--I guess. I don't know exactly how it would/could happen, but I'm hoping these final episodes give our characters the opportunity to not only secure/defeat/kill the great-evil that the island holds back, but also to rise up above the confines of this "game" they've been placed in, replacing Jacob and defeating the big baddie--freeing the good guys once and for all.

pete said...

Wrong about something in regard to Jacob touching all the Survivors to bring them to the island. Hurley and Sayid were touched after they returned from the island as members of the Oceanic 6. It's possible that Jacob touched them at some earlier time, but we haven't seen it.

pete said...

So the Others are people who Jacob brought to the island and Richard serves as an intermediary between them and Jacob, getting them to be basically good on Jacob's behalf so that Jacob doesn't have to interfere. But Richard helped facilitate the massacre of the Dharma Initiative, which kind of goes against the idea of people being good. In fact they were essentially at war as we saw in the time travel scene when Sawyer becomes LaFleur. Maybe the Dharma Initiative got to the island on their own, like the freightor, without Jacob's intervention so he had his followers get medieval on them. Maybe the island is like his statue, no one comes in unless he invites them in.

Still have some curiosity about the temple and the statue. Jacob obviously didn't build them himself, so maybe he and Anti-Jacob are the last two of an ancient people.

hi cbones1979 said...

Ok, I was reading through some past interviews with damon and cuse. This stuck my attention

"LINDELOF: These questions will be dealt with on the show. Should you infer that the detonation of Jughead is what sunk the island? Who knows? But there’s the Foot. What do you get when you see that shot? It looks like New Otherton got built. These little clues [might help you] extrapolate when the Island may have sunk. Start to think about it. A couple of episodes down the road, some of the characters might even discuss it. We will say this: season 6 is not about time travel. It’s about the implications, the aftermath, and the causality of trying to change the past. But the idea of continuing to do paradoxical storytelling is not what we’re interested in this year."

Got me thinking that the island won't sink until the end of this season and we will be like "o crap!!!"

We all think the jughead sunk it. Maybe it sinks, the plane flies over it and everyone lives happily ever after.

Any ideas? I could be way off.

Brendan said...

Yeah I'm not sure we can take it as a given then the blond ghost boy in the jungle was Young Jacob. It would make a lot of sense if it was, and I tend to think it was, but just based on what we've seen on the show, we don't know WHO the hell that kid was. And it has also crossed my mind that it was in fact Young SmokeLocke....

My initial theory was that both Jacob and Anti-Jacob were immortal, non-corporeal beings who happened to use human bodies as vessels. In this scenario their bodies can be killed, but their "souls," or what have you, cannot. They simply find another vessel and carry on.

My thought upon seeing Blond Ghost Boy/Young Jacob was that even though Ben killed Jacob's human form, he didn't destroy Jacob's essential being. In fact, Jacob would return to life, but it would take time and he would have to adopt a new body and mature along with it in order to become "full" Jacob again. If that were true, it puts a time limit on SmokeLocke's escape from the Island - he has to get away before Jacob grows up again.

The flaw in my theory here is that, so far, SmokeLocke doesn't seem particularly hurried at all, in fact quite the opposite. But the little blond boy is the ONLY thing we've seen so far the truly freaked him out, so it has to be crucial somehow....

stephenf44 said...

Brian:

Great lookback at Season 1. It's the best explanation I've read of the whole Caves vs beach camps, which was a division that I always thought felt forced in the story.

re: Jacob's bringing group X to the island. Maybe it's as simple as this: We know Jacob relies on people off the island (like Iliana and Brahm) to help him out, and he has the Lighthouse to spy on people and anticipate events. Jacob ID's a group of people and arranges for his agents to direct them to the island, which doesn't seem too hard if the Lighthouse can provide him info about future events.

So, by this theory, one of Jacob's followers drugged Lapidus, who thinks he overslept. Another Jacobite becomes the replacement pilot and steers Flight 815 thousand of miles off course and toward the island. Maybe that's why Smokey killed him later. Of course, Jacob also has to make sure the Desmond doesn't push the button at the hatch, which only shows that Jacob never does anything easy.

So it's not just by chance and random luck that these people come to the island, and Jacob can take credit for bringing group x to the island. (Of course, a shout-out to his helpers wouldn't hurt).

But what is it about these groups that attract Jacob? What are they supposed to do to change MIB's opinion of humanity? Yeah, I agree with you, that's a big question that Lost hasn't answered yet.

Steve said...

Brian, you may be too good. I think you're really onto something with the 'sink the island/save the world' idea. I would take it one step further but I hesitate...

I'm kind of torn, I love the blog and the previews, but maybe at this point focusing on the episode to be previews or reviewed and avoiding the overall ending of lost may be good etiquette.

Dave said...

I came up with something new while reading this recap. I don't think I've seen anyone hit on it yet. I'm not really sure where this exactly goes, but I think there's something to it. Ok, so MiB tells Alpert that Jacob "took my body and my humanity" or something like that, right? Didn't he essentially do the same thing to Locke? So I think there's more to it. Did MiB seal his own fate and now Flocke is forced to either become the new Jacob because he did what he claimed Jacob did to him? Then the real Locke will somehow be reincarnated as someone else, and be the new MiB? Maybe Jacob really is evil and MiB is really good (although everything points to the contrary), and it's just a cycle where the 'Jacob' gets killed but then his nemisis becomes the new Jacob. Remember, the title of the show was originally going to be Circle.

Either I'm on to something, or the show is officially driving me crazy.

stephenf44 said...

Dave: I think all Lost fans are little crazy at this point. But if MIB ends up as Jacob -- that's a different way to invert good/evil.

hi cbones1979: That's an interesting quote by Lindelof.
"...season 6 is not about time travel. It’s about the implications, the aftermath, and the causality of trying to change the past."

I don't know, but if "trying to change the past" is a reference to Faraday/Jack's plan to explode Jughead, then does this mean the alt-timeline is its aftermath?

Brendan said...

Interesting theory Dave. There's definitely gonna be some circular resolution at the end of Lost. The Survivors are caught in a game that's been going on forever (call it good vs. evil, free will vs. fate, whatever you'd like), and when this cycle completes, it will start all over again, just with new players (i.e. most likely Locke as MiB and Jack as Jacob).

Jacob said...

"...SmokeLocke and Jack sitting in some airtight room at the bottom of the ocean, forced to hang out with each other for all eternity. I hope one of them brings cards."

Sounds a lot like the current situation between Jacob and the Main in Black, hmmm....

mark said...

if someone is going to sink the island to the bottom of the ocean, trapping themselves with the smoke monster for all time, it has to be desmond.

think about it.

what if the opening scene from LA X, where desmond disappears is the intersection of the two timelines? in our timeline, desmond sacrifices himself and sinks the island, and somehow his abilities cause time to change again? time ripples backwards to before oceanic 815 crashes, where he disappears from the plane where he used to be, creating the new timeline?

and how sad and tragic a conclusion this would be for poor desmond, who was trapped on the island for years and finally makes his way back to penny, only to volunteer to be trapped on the island forever?

"what was that all about?"

"just saving the world." again.

mark said...

and one more comment.

if the smoke monster is the wine, and the island is the cork, then what does the bottle represent?!?