Well, I guess I’m a slacker again.
Super Nice Weather All Weekend = Super Late and Crappy Blog Post
Luckily, this week was definitely a “light” episode in regards to the required analysis, so the timing worked out pretty well. It’ll be another quick turnaround with the analysis today and the episode preview tomorrow – but better late than never, right?
Kate. Since this week’s episode was a Kate-centric affair, it’s only appropriate to start with the resident Lost hottie. I must say, Kate has done quite a bit of growing up over the past three years. All the sudden, she’s no longer the wishy-washy girl that is crying on Jack’s shoulder one minute and then punching and shacking up with Sawyer the next. Apparently three years of taking care of a baby just drains the crazy right out of you!
Kate actually made some really levelheaded and logical decisions this week, kept her emotions in check, and showed she was able to put the past behind her and act to save Young Ben. Even better, she actually has a logical reason to return to the
(Note: I almost wrote “Rose and Bernard” there, since that seems to be the consensus complaint from the Lost Blogosphere – the fact that none of our characters are worried about them, and have no idea what happened to them. But then I got to thinking – do I really need Rose and Bernard eating up valuable storyline time over far more interesting characters like Desmond, Locke, Miles, or Faraday? Heck no! So even though people seem to ask about what happened to them each week – deep down, we really don’t care THAT much, do we?)
Aaron. Poor Aaron. First he’s born to a single mother who couldn’t wait to give him away. Then he crashes on a crazy
Yikes. Sucks to be him.
But the big question for me is – is this the end of Aaron’s storyline? Although Kate did tell Carole Littleton the truth about the Island, what are the odds that Aaron ever makes it back to the
Of course I’m hoping for the former – just to give some payoff to all the hype that surrounded Aaron for the first season of Lost… but we’re so far removed from that storyline that I’m really struggling to see how the writers could resurrect it at this point.
See you at Lost-Con 2020, Aaron.
Love Rhombus. Speaking of storylines that might be ending, this episode has me wondering – is this the end of the Love Rhombus between Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Juliet? This week seemed to drop two huge bombs on the Rhombus.
- Kate told Jack “I don’t like the new Jack”. Jack responds “You didn’t like the old Jack either.”
- Sawyer decides to help take Young Ben to the Others, risking blowing the cover on this perfect life with Dharma. But in a huge twist, it wasn’t because he wanted to help Kate out (which may indicate there were still feelings there), but because Juliet asked him to (albeit, using Kate’s words).
So it seems to me that we’ve actually got some true love going on between Juliet and Sawyer… and it seems to me that the newly matured Kate finally realizes that she and Jack just aren’t right for each other. Television history has always taught us that twisty relationships like these don’t ever work themselves out before the series finale (see: Friends, Dawson’s Creek, The Wonder Years, Perfect Strangers) – but wouldn’t it be just like Lost to be a little different, and resolve this storyline nearly a season and a half remaining?
Perhaps I’m being overly optimistic… and if Buffy the Vampire Slayer taught me nothing else, it’s that when characters find happy love – one of them is doomed to die before season end. But I have to admit, I’m pulling for Sawyer and Juliet to end up together, Jack to become a disciple of Locke on the Island, and Kate to move to
(Note: Really, can you blame Kate for leaving Jack? He gets out of a shower and puts his shirt on without drying off first? Are you serious? That was the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen on Lost ever! Who does that?!)
Benjamin Linus. This brings us to the major discussion point from the episode – Richard Alpert taking Benjamin Linus to the
Did Juliet know that the Others had this magical ability to bring people back from the dead, even thought it comes at the cost of innocence? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, she knows more than she is letting on – but I can’t figure out why. What harm would there be in telling our Survivors (especially someone like Sawyer) all the secrets she knows about the Others from her time with them? Does she think she is protecting them? Or maybe Juliet really doesn’t know that much, and thought about asking the Others to help Young Ben as a last ditch effort? I love Juliet… but I still don’t know if I trust her.
Why did Ben’s wound move from the left side of his body to the right? Initially, I would chalk this up to a mistake in the costume / special effects department… except I have to think that they would have filmed the final scenes of “He’s Our You” (with Sayid shooting Ben) and the first scenes of “Whatever Happened, Happened” (with Jin picking Ben up), right? Wouldn’t that have been way easier than setting up that scene the exact same way twice? If this is the case, it would mean someone would have to put a bullet hole in the left side of Ben’s jacket, have him fall down – then cut scene, have him switch jackets to one with blood on the right side – and continue. That’s being intentionally inconsistent, which I don’t buy for Lost.
Instead, I’m going to assume this is an example of the
The biggest point of debate from the episode concerned these lines from Richard Alpert: "If I take him, he's not ever going to be the same again. What I mean is that he'll forget this ever happened and his innocence will be gone. He will always be one of us." Is this an example of the writers coming up with a clever (read: cheap) excuse for why Ben never mentioned knowing our Survivors when he interacted with them in Season Two? Is this an excuse for how sweet Young Ben turns into evil Grownup Ben? I have a hard time believing that the writers would spend three episodes showing us how terrible Young Ben’s life was (which provides a very logical explanation for how and why he could be a part of the Purge) only to have it actually mean nothing – and explain his personality on some Temple Magic. In fact, I think we’ve done a decent job in our pervious analysis of justifying why Ben wouldn’t have referenced knowing our Survivors in Season Two (like it would blow his cover, take away his strategic advantage over our Survivors, etc) where people weren’t really questioning it anymore – at least not as much as they are complaining about the lack of Rose and Bernard this season.
Here’s how I interpreted Richard’s words:
“If I take him, he’s not ever going to be the same again” = If I take him, he’s going to turn into a devout follower of the Religion of Island, just like CFL’s crew.
“What I mean is that he’ll forget this ever happened and his innocence will be gone” = He won’t know why he’s suddenly a devout follower of the Religion of Island, but his childhood innocence will be gone and he’ll suddenly be consumed with the life and death struggle to protect the Island.
“He will always be one of us” = There’s no undoing this. It’s not BF, it’s BFF.
This means that Ben is still going to have the knowledge about what a jerk his dad was (although the writers did their best this week to make us feel sorry for him), which would explain why he felt the need to personally kill him in the Purge. It would mean he’s going to remember Sayid shooting him, which would explain why he used Sayid as an assassin to turn him into the one thing he didn’t want to become – a killer – because payback is a bitch. It would also mean that there’s a reason for all his cryptic speeches to our Survivors over the years – because he knows what they would become when they grow up… and end up back in 1977.
(Note: there’s always the chance that I’m totally wrong and the Lost writers are taking the easy way out with Ben losing his memory and becoming an mindless Island Zealot. Maybe it was really nice weather in
Widmore. Finally, we seemingly got our confirmation that Charles Widmore ascended to the role of “Leader of the Others” by 1977, and Ellie was his right hand man (woman).
Random Other: "You shouldn't do this without asking Ellie. If Charles finds out..."
Alpert: "I don't answer to either of them."
So, in 1954 Widmore was an up and coming Other. When Widmore talked to Locke in 2007, he told him that he was leader of the Others for 30 years. Miles said that Widmore had been looking for the
For a brief refresher of those earlier theories, revisit the “Jughead” Analysis here: http://lost-and-gone-forever.blogspot.com/2009/01/jughead-analysis.html
Okay – sorry for mailing it in this week guys. I promise to try and do better next time.
Until tomorrow!
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18 comments:
I almost couldn't read past "super nice weather" because our spring break is more like a repeat of winter break but easter bunny decor replacing santa.
I thought Kate leaving Aaron with grandma stranger was odd and am curious how losing 'mommy' Kate. Maybe Carole & Aaron will take a trip back to Australia but end up on the island somehow.
I'm so over the love square, like Juliet & Sawyer together and for a minute thought Kate & Roger were going to eat some ham together.
I keep wondering why no one is concerned about Rose & Bernard, asked Kate about Aaron and stopped looking for the other losties on the Ajira flight (we know they're in 2008 but they don't).
The temple scene confused me a little bit, does Ben only forget getting shot & healed or everything before that point? And even then, wouldn't he still remember some of the losties after the plane crash from dharma days.
I'm most excited about the o_O look on Ben's face when he saw not so dead Locke...I'm hoping we pick right up at that scene next week.
Nice blogging, your comment on Jack's shirt had me laughing. Keep enjoying that nice weather, someone should be!
Yep, I can just see Roger fixing Kate a ham dinner! Seriously, I think he kinda likes her, and she seems to feel sorry for him. Of course he's not nearly as cute as Sawyer or Jack, but our Kate always seems to be drawn to Men With Issues, and ol' Roger certainly has that going for him. ;~)
I agree about actually SEEING Rose and Bernard really isn't that necessary. I'm sure they'll be back eventually and all will be explained. The thing is, as usual, the lack of interest in things not concerning themselves. They're a big ol' heap of egotistics, really.
What annoys me concerning Rose and Bernard is the lack of interest. Just one throwaway line of, oh I don't know, "We've still got people out there! Rose and Bernard! We can't forget!" from Sawyer, or from Kate/Hurley, "So, what happened to the other we left behind? Charlotte? R&B? Oh, and did you find Claire?".
That was also one thing that annoyed me in the premiere. When Faraday comes back from the Zodiac and asks if everyone is accounted for, Sawyer and Juliet stares at each other for a couple of seconds, and then he says, "Locke." You forgot about Claire that quickly, huh?
I think there is a failure to rememember what our survivors have been through over the past 3 years starting with flashing through time!! Also, given the incident on the beach, when they were under attack by presumably the hostiles....with many of our survivors getting killed....it is easy to understand how and why they are not thinking about Bernard and Rose as well as many of the other 815 survivors. Their focus became...and has been....their own survival perhaps leaving them to believe any others could be anywhere else in time or even dead.
However, as stated, the writers could have tossed a line or 2 in anyones diaglogue to reflect any concern or thought our survivors may still have for these folks.
Maybe it's just hopeful continuity on my part but could Ben have been turning towards/away from Sayid during the shot and it came in at more of an angle then dead on heart accurate?
Also, what's the better bet: Jack redeems himself by season end and makes himself worthwhile to a more level headed Kate without murder charges hanging out there or that Jack goes with the flow and ends up as one of the sacrifices to save the island?
Oh, and is too much to ask that tomorrow night4 episode somewhat address Ben's stealing of Alex to close that chapter and maybe delve into the Ben and Widmore rules discussion?
Am I the only one who thinks that Rose and Bernard are Adam and Eve? When the flaming arrows rained down Sawyer yelled for everyone to meet at the creek. The Others heard that and were waiting for them, capturing a few and killing many. Perhaps Rose and Bernard showed up late, maybe after the next flash, and avoided the ambush. They waited around for a while and no one ever showed up so they went looking for shelter, wandered up the creek and found the cave. Still have no idea what the black and white stones were for, but I think it's reasonable to think that Rose and Bernard felt they were abandoned or the only ones left and tried to ride it out in the cave. The last flash left them in the 70's and somehow, they died together.
I don't know why, but I still have a feeling the the trip to the temple will have more of an impact on the "current" Ben in 2007 than on young Ben back in 1977. But that follows the crazy theory of mine that Ben and Richard might end up on the good side.
Is anyone else concerned that Kate has exposed the lie to two people who have no realt reason to keep the secret?
....Bob -- excellent point and would certainly hope we are not forever left hanging as to what actually happened as to how Ben came to be Alex's father. I think I heard on a pod-cast last season that we would get a back-story on CFL. Hopefully, the scene on the beach with her and Jin is not the end of it!!
Many, many loose ends for the writers eventually to tie up. Alex's history with Ben is clearly one, Rose and Bernard (and the fate of the other survivors another) and countless more to follow. I think C&L try hard to be true to their audience by bringing key things to some form of closure. If between now, and the end of the show next season this stuff is not resolved, maybe they have plans to roll-out a LOST book that will serve to tie up ALL the loose ends....who knows!!??
"Now if only we could find out that the reason Hurley came back is to find Vincent."
HILARIOUS.
in response to joel's comment...
I felt the same way at the beginning of last season about the aftermath of charlie's death. there was one episode where people reacted and responded to his death, and then after that, nothing. even claire, who arguably spent more time with him than anyone, barely seemed to miss him after that first episode. ok, maybe i'm just a big fan of charlie's character, but i thought he deserved more of a long lasting reaction than that.
I think that you hit something here brian. Widmore turning the FDW may very well be the incident, or if NOT the incedent, it's as a result of the incident.. and at least how our time skipping survivors will return to 2007/2008.
Widmore had also said that Ben tricked him into leaving the island, and we can only assume it was through moving the FDW. So there's the 'how' they get back and avoid the purge.
This doesn't really have much to do with anything, but did you catch the name of the boat they were all standing next to at the marina (when they reviewed that scene from a previous episode where Sun had the gun on Ben and Kate drove off all angry)? The boat was called "Illusion," in prominent red letters so we wouldn't miss it. What are they trying to tell us with that?
yeah, Ben had better not just forget everything... that'd be cheap. Just about as cheap as Aaron suddenly becoming an unimportant character. d'oh.
Steve, I think you might have just spoiled the season finale, lol.
Really, that's a great theory.
pete: no, several people have posted in past blogs that they also believe B & R may be Adam and Eve. you are not alone :)
dave harty: i was thinking the same thing about Kate bringing up the "secret". maybe it will be a good thing since very few "neutral" parties know about it... may be helpful later. or it may put them in danger if they start talking about it to the wrong people. i wonder if it will be a plot point.
I noticed Jack's wet shirt thing, too! Very weird. Seems very uncomfortable.
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