tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post5787743209821520556..comments2024-01-06T04:42:25.811-05:00Comments on Lost... and Gone Forever: "The Man Behind the Curtain" Instant Reactions!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-73851877049921336042007-05-14T05:32:00.000-05:002007-05-14T05:32:00.000-05:00From Brians post:"It’s [immortality] the reason th...From Brians post:<BR/>"It’s [immortality] the reason that the Others would rather die than have the outside world find out about them"<BR/><BR/>Well maybe that's true for the original Others. This episode also made it clear that the Others (including ex-Dharmites like Ben) also also has a second reason to stay hidden: they are mass murderers and would be punished for that if the outside world ever found out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-69635840426583851432007-05-12T12:58:00.000-05:002007-05-12T12:58:00.000-05:00P.S. Brian looking forward to your full analysis, ...P.S. Brian looking forward to your full analysis, even if it shoots my ideas all to smithereens.Sawyer's Opticianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03428327101381702192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-34774234394326305892007-05-12T12:49:00.000-05:002007-05-12T12:49:00.000-05:00This is not really a complete theory but a feeling...This is not really a complete theory but a feeling that keeps nagging at me. Ben has always reminded me more of Norman Bates then the beneficent Wizard of Oz! (even before this episode - remember his creepy motionless stare in the hatch when he was held prisoner) Ben killed his father; Normie killed his mother. Norman’s brain split, and half of him became “Mother.” He had conversations with his mother who was a decomposing corpse in a rocking chair. Norman, as his mother, killed any one who got too close to him because he couldn't handle relationships. Norman actually believed his Mother committed the murders and cleaned up after her. He dumped the bodies in out of the way places. I belive Jacob’s disembodied voice came from Ben's vocal chords. I think that Ben believes Jacob is real, but I don’t believe that Jacob is real. I don't have a complete explaination for all that went down in the cabin, but i noticed that Locke seemed to hear something in the woods before entering the cabin. Maybe Ben has conned someone into helping his deception of Locke into the Jacob myth. <BR/>Another thought in this increasingly long post, is the thing about pregnancy and the island. Maybe it is all somehow sabatoged by Ben in some underhanded way. He has a troupe of people who will blindly follow his orders. Or at least he did. He is a killing machine, and very disturbed. No woman is going to have the opportunity to be a mom, because my mommy didn't!Sawyer's Opticianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03428327101381702192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-54836422599635614652007-05-11T21:17:00.000-05:002007-05-11T21:17:00.000-05:00Is anyone else having trouble using the message bo...Is anyone else having trouble using the message board? I'm trying to give it an honest try, but it takes forever for my computer to pull up the page, if it ever does. Maybe it's just me.<BR/><BR/>BTW, the new podcast is on the ABC site, & it is pretty interesting. Funny too:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-8760397146386244722007-05-11T19:09:00.000-05:002007-05-11T19:09:00.000-05:00Is it just me or is Kate getting really annoying? ...Is it just me or is Kate getting really annoying? It seems like everytime i see her i want to tell her to shut up. Shes frustrateing the bejeebies out of me.<BR/><BR/>P.s. I used to love her characterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-26514697626536084302007-05-11T17:49:00.000-05:002007-05-11T17:49:00.000-05:00just a thought but;we don't have a proof other tha...just a thought but;<BR/><BR/>we don't have a proof other than ben's comments about the man(or whatever) in the shack.<BR/><BR/>we know of ben's manipulative ways.<BR/><BR/>although i am thinking the other way, may be that was not jacob.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08904826019088668597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-62334437428888569952007-05-11T15:56:00.000-05:002007-05-11T15:56:00.000-05:00FYI, Carlton Cuse let out a big spoiler last month...FYI, Carlton Cuse let out a big spoiler last month about Locke:<BR/><BR/>Carlton Cuse on Ask Ausiello 4/18/07: "Let's just say the end of the season features a showdown between Jack and Locke — a showdown long anticipated and a showdown with an extremely significant outcome for the future of the castaways." <BR/><BR/>My prediction: Locke going to live, Charlie will stay alive for now, and Rose and Bernard are going to die before the season's over. Because the commercials say at least 2 characters are going to die, and if anyone else dies (like Sawyer or Sayid) people will be upset... but there's no point for these 2 people to stay alive.<BR/><BR/>If anyone else dies that's a major character in this season, I predict it's Jack, Juliet, or both! <BR/><BR/>~M~melodramahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087244009291614535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-22836705784110733442007-05-11T13:14:00.000-05:002007-05-11T13:14:00.000-05:00http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20038370,00.htmlhttp://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20038370,00.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-38411655390068226902007-05-11T12:59:00.000-05:002007-05-11T12:59:00.000-05:00Continuing on the idea of Ben and Jacob being rela...Continuing on the idea of Ben and Jacob being related to the Bible, it seems reasonable that Locke would have the role of Joseph. From a description of Joseph:<BR/><BR/>"Joseph was a favorite son of his father's, who made him a multi-colored coat."<BR/><BR/>"...his brothers plotted against him one day when he was 17 and would have killed him had not Reuben interposed. He persuaded them instead to throw Joseph into a pit...<BR/><BR/>"They then dipped Joseph's colored coat in goat's blood and showed it to their father, saying that Joseph had been torn apart..."<BR/><BR/>Interesting that Locke ended up in a pit, isn't it? And now Ben will presumably lie about what happened to Locke...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-38611889059512679562007-05-11T12:31:00.000-05:002007-05-11T12:31:00.000-05:00My theory on Ben, Alex, Annie, and Danielle:Ben an...My theory on Ben, Alex, Annie, and Danielle:<BR/><BR/>Ben and Annie tried to have a baby, and it killed her. Ben found Danielle and stole Alex. Possibly, Ben claimed to the Others that Alex was actually Ben & Annie's daughter, but Annie died. Finally, Ben killed off the DHARMA peeps and raised Alex as his own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-14806152609121370002007-05-11T10:16:00.000-05:002007-05-11T10:16:00.000-05:00Juliet did NOT know what was on the back of the ta...Juliet did NOT know what was on the back of the tape, but she figured that it had Bens response to her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-26699858093571292882007-05-11T08:45:00.000-05:002007-05-11T08:45:00.000-05:00madjen said... "Has anyone said anything about Ali...madjen said... <BR/>"Has anyone said anything about Alice in Wonderlands “Through the Looking Glass”. Ben WAS led by the bunny to outside the Darma compound."<BR/><BR/>i noticed ben's mom was dressed very similar to alice in wonderland when he saw her across the fence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-72246325140282994822007-05-11T07:52:00.000-05:002007-05-11T07:52:00.000-05:00How did Kelvin manage to survive the "purge"? They...How did Kelvin manage to survive the "purge"? They would have raided the SWAN hatch too one would think!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-79678947015276559282007-05-11T07:50:00.000-05:002007-05-11T07:50:00.000-05:00I think the biggest question now is who are these ...I think the biggest question now is who are these "original inhabitants"? How do they have such vast and sophisticated resources on the mainland? Aside from Richard, where are the other "original inhabitants"? What is their purpose on the Island? With all of DHARMA'S weapons and resources, it is curious how they lost it in the purge. What caused them to fight against each other?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-55157925538953927052007-05-11T07:11:00.000-05:002007-05-11T07:11:00.000-05:00I believe the 'sand' was actually some type of hal...I believe the 'sand' was actually some type of hallucinogen. Locke knelt down and smelled it. So he was tripin' in the room. It was all a farce. <BR/><BR/>What I want to know is the correlation between Ben seeing his mom and Kate seeing the black horse. Any link here?<BR/><BR/>Has anyone said anything about Alice in Wonderlands “Through the Looking Glass”. Ben WAS led by the bunny to outside the Darma compound. <BR/><BR/>And lastly, Ben seemed to show remorse to the dude that actually brought him and his dad to the island. I think next season will delve deep into Ben’s relationship with the other Darma folks and what they did to cause the betrayal.madjenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14388918415360111400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-18462683547963587622007-05-11T05:02:00.000-05:002007-05-11T05:02:00.000-05:00Ben describes to Locke the "others" as the origina...Ben describes to Locke the "others" as the original inhabitants of the island. What does this mean? <BR/><BR/>And...why do the two men (one was a black man and one was a guy with a distinctive gray beard and somewhat balding head) shown walking on the dock when Ben and his dad arrive to the island also appear in the orientation video? (Would be good to capture and post a clip of the two men, both on the dock and in the video, if possible Brian).<BR/><BR/>Also, the reason Ben gave Locke as to why he shot him was cause "he heard him" referring to Jacob. This could mean many things but appeared to be some sort of envy. Presumably, Ben is envious of Locke's growing "communion" with the island and now, connection to Jacob. But...why didn't Ben hear Jacob's words too? And....what does Jacob wish to be "helped" from/of? <BR/><BR/>This show continues to rock!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-10126763448728684332007-05-11T04:50:00.000-05:002007-05-11T04:50:00.000-05:00and another thing, one of the bodies in the mass g...and another thing, one of the bodies in the mass grave Locke is analysing before he gets up to be shot, has a bullet hole in its skull? Radzinski's body perhaps?Matt Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13269384042123850233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-81647000122830291342007-05-11T04:37:00.000-05:002007-05-11T04:37:00.000-05:00btw, how did Juliette know what was on the flip si...btw, how did Juliette know what was on the flip side of the tape without having heard it yet?<BR/><BR/>also, anyone think the bunny young Ben had was the same he had later when he scammed Sawyer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-34074429711996487312007-05-11T04:23:00.000-05:002007-05-11T04:23:00.000-05:00Why is it important for Ben to lie and make everyo...Why is it important for Ben to lie and make everyone think he was 'born' on the island?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-17141988934540817522007-05-11T03:48:00.000-05:002007-05-11T03:48:00.000-05:00I´m still in shock about Locke getting shot, and r...I´m still in shock about Locke getting shot, and refuse to believe he´s dead. LOST wouldn´t be the same without him, and they still have three more seasons to come. Without Locke? Impossible! It also seems obvious that Ben shot him because he´s afraid of him, and envious. Ben is slowly losing his leading position, as some of you have mentioned before, and Locke is gaining more and more respect form the rest of the Others.<BR/><BR/>That episode has been the creepiest up till now, and both actors are simply awesome! Long live Locke (and Ben, for more creepy stuff to come)!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-6444579051412670292007-05-11T02:31:00.000-05:002007-05-11T02:31:00.000-05:00Jacob looks like RICHARD CHAMBERLAIN. Don't you t...Jacob looks like RICHARD CHAMBERLAIN. Don't you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-71441646055810851822007-05-11T02:22:00.000-05:002007-05-11T02:22:00.000-05:00What struck me, was although Ben's dad had aged wh...What struck me, was although Ben's dad had aged when he was gassed, when Ben went back to the camp - Horace (creepy guy from the Green Mile) looked the same age as he was at the start of the episode, just like Richard Alpert.Matt Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13269384042123850233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-76611317619312427302007-05-10T23:05:00.000-05:002007-05-10T23:05:00.000-05:00What happens when Ben goes back to the camp withou...What happens when Ben goes back to the camp without Locke? Will he tell the others that Locke upset Jacob by showing up and was killed for doing so? If Ben does that, what will he say when Locke comes walking back fully healed? If he admits he tried to kill Locke, he will lose everything. But if he sticks with his story of how Jacob killed Locke then Locke coming back will make him look even more powerful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-84316254325481315372007-05-10T22:06:00.000-05:002007-05-10T22:06:00.000-05:00Wow, 71 comments! Great episode, and great post! :...Wow, 71 comments! Great episode, and great post! :-)Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024186205791001584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-86484336132185461612007-05-10T21:03:00.000-05:002007-05-10T21:03:00.000-05:00Jacob looks kind of like Kris Kristofferson.Jacob looks kind of like Kris Kristofferson.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222781438428902203noreply@blogger.com