tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post3999883638653324438..comments2024-01-06T04:42:25.811-05:00Comments on Lost... and Gone Forever: "The Last Recruit" Analysis!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-25789309120674363932010-04-30T20:33:29.922-05:002010-04-30T20:33:29.922-05:00ok brian, here are some questions i have for you (...ok brian, here are some questions i have for you (and everyone) based on the assumption that if the MIB was responsible for all the island appearances of christian shephard, was he responsible for many of the other apparitions everyone else saw over the course of the series?<br /><br />this would include a lot of random mysteries over the course of LOST, and raise some other very interesting questions...<br /><br />- did he appear to charlie back in season 2 to try and convince him to drown aaron? is this further evidence that the MIB is afraid of aaron for some reason, or that aaron was (and maybe still is) a candidate?<br /><br />- why would he take the appearance of kate's horse after sawyer, jin and michael's return? what did he hope to accomplish? and when did smokey get a chance to scan kate?<br /><br />- did he appear to hurley as dave in season 2 to try and convince him to kill himself? when did he scan hurley? this would seem to make sense, it would be a way to eliminate one of the candidates within "the rules.."<br /><br />- if some or even all of these mysterious appearances were by the MIB, i think the most logical explanation for how he scanned or learned about them was by taking the appearance of vincent. we saw in one of the mini episodes that christian finds vincent and directs him towards jack right after the crash. i think the MIB takes vincent's form after that point at different times to keep an eye on the survivors. what do you think?<br /><br />- did he appear to locke as walt at the end of season 3, and give him instructions to kill naomi? why would smokey want to prevent the freighter crew from finding the island if they would come and kill everyone, including the candidates, therefore freeing him?<br /><br />- do you think everyone who comes to the island is initially a candidate, but certain things they do can disqualify them and take them off the list? or does jacob choose people and find a way to bring them to the island?markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05358237124841529724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-51316249220221478212010-04-30T20:27:14.141-05:002010-04-30T20:27:14.141-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05358237124841529724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-22388209595763771662010-04-30T09:51:11.683-05:002010-04-30T09:51:11.683-05:00Good interview with Damon - no spoilers. http://w...Good interview with Damon - no spoilers. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44870Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13857655627700261559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-8989286252998551962010-04-28T19:46:10.431-05:002010-04-28T19:46:10.431-05:00In the episode rerun last night, they said that lo...In the episode rerun last night, they said that lock is still a candidate? It was sun or jin, jack, kate, hurley, sawyer and LOCKE. That doesnt make sense.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11695090594290709983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-44400364508619644932010-04-28T15:51:36.326-05:002010-04-28T15:51:36.326-05:00my best guess on how it could b e smoke monster (w...my best guess on how it could b e smoke monster (which is the obvious answer based on what happened) is that when the smoke monster came in an "flashed him" it is a type of scan. I think we have been told that in the past or at least most people agreed that is what happens when the smoke monster flashes people.Rob Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384103554084191809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-16363359055991261882010-04-28T12:05:43.165-05:002010-04-28T12:05:43.165-05:00Did anyone catch the caption that said Isabella ta...Did anyone catch the caption that said Isabella talking to Richard on the black rock before the smoke monster showed up was actually the smoke monster trying to trick him? How could this be unless her body was on the island?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-53933671601317616272010-04-28T11:28:55.166-05:002010-04-28T11:28:55.166-05:00A plain ol' rereun (though I definitely could&...A plain ol' rereun (though I definitely could've missed something). There were some little things that I don't know how we would've known (for example: Isabella had teburculosis and the medicine the doctor got for Richard was fake and wouldn't have worked; also, apparently when she told him - through Hurley - to close his eyes at the end, we were supposed to know that it was "their thing" and that's how Richard knew Hurley actually was speaking on behalf of her) but it's not new info that changes anything.<br /><br />Also talked about Richard being the first person Anti-Jacob attempted to use as a loophole.Dharma Mayonnaisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00677093103742224522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-57901551808987042002010-04-28T09:10:28.382-05:002010-04-28T09:10:28.382-05:00I didn't watch the rerun last night. Was ther...I didn't watch the rerun last night. Was there anything of interest? (pop up commentaries, or any other surprises for fans who are more diligent than I was?) Or just a plain ol' rerun?falconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01295376812990820540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-86849105413383798962010-04-27T13:46:38.710-05:002010-04-27T13:46:38.710-05:00nanoo, that's a spoiler! I had to avert my ey...nanoo, that's a spoiler! I had to avert my eyes and close the page! I'm surprised Darlton let that picture out (unless the "spoilers" on there are phony).Brian Leonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11901588870060895485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-83275637137222695532010-04-27T13:12:57.388-05:002010-04-27T13:12:57.388-05:00http://www.wired.com/magazine/wp-content/images/18...http://www.wired.com/magazine/wp-content/images/18-05/ff_lost_2000px_f.jpg<br /><br />Check out that whiteboard. <br /><br />Greetings from Lithuania! Thanks for your blog!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02940788298318785844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-67699119637643225292010-04-27T08:17:30.280-05:002010-04-27T08:17:30.280-05:00Smokey (to borrow from Dan Patrick back in the day...Smokey (to borrow from Dan Patrick back in the day) - you can't beat him, you can only hope to contain him.<br /><br />I think that applies to Jacob's wine bottle theory.Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972887950765224772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-2350984941709196882010-04-26T22:37:00.262-05:002010-04-26T22:37:00.262-05:00to The Other Brian:
Ahhh yes... BUT his Body is a...to The Other Brian:<br /><br />Ahhh yes... BUT his Body is apparently on the island somewhere... which I'm pretty sure would count...<br /><br />lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-57132755703942916312010-04-26T19:38:10.423-05:002010-04-26T19:38:10.423-05:00Brian - do you think that Christian Shepard appea...Brian - do you think that Christian Shepard appearing off Island and all the other "dead" people seen by Hurley were Jacob himself?Vidyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08247715907333926549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-16832467742063232362010-04-26T17:45:11.154-05:002010-04-26T17:45:11.154-05:00Here's my question: Do you think Rose and Bern...Here's my question: Do you think Rose and Bernard will have anything to do with the coming war? I wonder how they can be the only ones that aren't involved on the island.Caralynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00408984473554314792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-41834029823293740822010-04-26T16:54:21.331-05:002010-04-26T16:54:21.331-05:00Rob Rose: I don't think your freighter theory ...Rob Rose: I don't think your freighter theory works, because Christian didn't die on the Island. Michael and the other whisperers did (or very nearby). But your explanation of the hospital appearnce works for me.<br /><br />the Other BrianBrian Leonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01846954308858847231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-7442938944234219832010-04-26T16:00:19.633-05:002010-04-26T16:00:19.633-05:00oh yeah... the other biggie...
What is the island...oh yeah... the other biggie...<br /><br />What is the island?<br />-cork, purgatory, bridge between realities? <br /><br />Can't help but think that once we understand this, we will understand what the goal of the survivors is and what the Smokemonster's strategy and means of stopping him is.<br /><br />ex. if its a type of spiritual purgatory where the smokemonster is to remain banished with a guardian type person (jacob?) then by replacing jacob the person gets whatever power Jacob had in detaining the smoke monster.Rob Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384103554084191809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-80869390582818653622010-04-26T15:56:42.285-05:002010-04-26T15:56:42.285-05:00Well... I think my best questions were from my pos...Well... I think my best questions were from my post from the instant reactions, but here is a recap...<br /><br />the importance of Widmore's team, camp, or technology?<br />-contain smokemonster, merely to deliver Desmond, destroy island?<br /><br />How do the survivors defeat Smokey?<br />-electromagnetism, being a candidate (what the crap does that mean?), not leaving the island, stabbing him with a sword before he talks (the only way we have actually been told but probably wrong), dynamite?<br /><br />What is the significance of the flash sideways? (so we know they are an alternate reality that is gaining awareness of island reality, but so what...)<br />-to show the personal sacrifice of the survivors (i think this is your current hypothesis brian), that they can defeat the smokemonster there, representing the smokemonster winning?<br /><br />What are the remaining important factors to the storyline?<br />-jacob's ashes?<br />-the candidates (duh)<br />-desmond<br />-electromagnetic pockets?<br />-flash sideways ephiphanies<br />-the sub<br />-the plane<br />-wells?<br />-children (walt, jacob's or MIB's ghost)... (BTW... why can't the child showing up be one of the ghosts?)<br />-this factors into how it will be concluded right?<br /><br />Also, i think you are dead on about the action headed towards hydra Island. Which consequently gives a great camera shot on the island sinking.... hmmm...Rob Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384103554084191809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-73039476726928612682010-04-26T13:06:24.413-05:002010-04-26T13:06:24.413-05:00@Rob Rose:
Do you think the ghost of Christian wa...@Rob Rose:<br /><br />Do you think the ghost of Christian was working on behalf of MIB? Or do you think Christian was working on behalf of the island? <br /><br />I was OK with Christian = MIB, if only because it simplified the story. MIB appeared as Christian to Jack at the hospital in order to drive Jack back to the island (with Locke's body) -- that makes sense to me. But if Christian was really Christian and doing the island's bidding -- well, the Lost writers have more explaining to do.<br /><br />Good catch on the whispers preceding Chistian's appearance to Michael on the freigher. Hope it wasn't some screw up by the writers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-36382774975414297272010-04-26T11:31:33.805-05:002010-04-26T11:31:33.805-05:00Brian...
I've come up with an explanation for...Brian...<br /><br />I've come up with an explanation for Christian's appearance 1) to Michael on the Freighter and 2) off island to Jack... its quite simply actually... and makes COMPLETE SENSE. (although personally I think the writers just luck out that it makes sense)<br /><br />The explanation is simple...<br /><br />THAT ACTUALLY WAS CHRISTIAN SHEPHERD.<br /><br />1.FREIGHTER:<br /><br />Two things bring me to this conclusion that seem pretty obvious to me. The first is that DEAD LIBBY had previously appeared to Michael on the freighter, accompanied by the whispers... confirming that the dead have the ability to travel over water. The second bit of proof is simply the fact that right before Christian appeared on the freighter... Michael heard the whispers.. which we now know are the dead people trapped on the island, I.E. Dead Christian Shepherd. <br /><br />Why Christian was the one to tell Michael he could die now, is anyone's guess.. but it looks like that's what happened.<br /><br /><br />2. OFF ISLAND/JACK<br /><br />During the time of the Oceanic Six's three years off island. Hurley had been shown to have been being visited by those who died on the island (Charlie, Mr. Eko, Anna-Lucia etc..) Apparently, its been revealed that these people were NOT any kind of apparition of Man In Black or Jacob, but rather the dead people themselves...<br /><br />EARLIER IN THE DAY Before Jack saw his father, he visited Hurley... Hurley told Jack that he had been talking to Charlie... and that he had told him that Jack would be visiting... before Jack left the hospital, Hurley told Jack that "he told me that someone was coming to visit you[Jack] too" and that it would be soon. That night he saw Christian at the hospital. So its apparent that it was ACTUALLY Christian who appeared to Jack off the island.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-49272993341933955852010-04-26T11:25:24.926-05:002010-04-26T11:25:24.926-05:00maybe i missed it, but wasn't there talk about...maybe i missed it, but wasn't there talk about someone getting shot on a boat to hydra island? was that purely speculation and just didn't happen now that sawyer's group already made it there?DubZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15284383851075290249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-74656861707346895912010-04-26T10:09:21.074-05:002010-04-26T10:09:21.074-05:00i feel like a kid. My wife was making fun of my b...i feel like a kid. My wife was making fun of my because i was excited about being mentioned in the blog post. Looks like Christmas came early :-) ill have questions later. Im still just living up the glory.Rob Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11384103554084191809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-30231585922581690992010-04-26T09:46:17.632-05:002010-04-26T09:46:17.632-05:00I think it's safe to venture that MiB manipula...I think it's safe to venture that MiB manipulated Ben to an extent, probably first through the apparition of his dead mother (who didn't die on the Island though, so how Smokey appropriated her likeness is problematic), in an attempt to make Ben appear "special" to the Others, thus infiltrating them for MiB's own ends, just how it eventually played out with Locke...<br /><br />BUT, Ben was brought into the Others fold by Richard, who is the only person to maintain real contact with Jacob, so to say Ben was only working for MiB all along is specious at best. Richard first felt Ben could be "special" <i>because of</i> his vision of his dead mother (another problem - if Richard was well aware of Mib/Smokey taking the form of the dead in order to trick people, wouldn't Ben's vision set off major alarm bells? ). Then, Ben was rehabilitated in the Temple from the gunshot wound Sayid inflicted, making him an "Other for life," which falls under Jacob's domain. Don't forget that "Man Behind The Curtain" strongly implies that Ben and Richard planned the DHARMA purge together, so, while MiB seems pretty evil, the Jacob camp isn't exactly all sweetness and innocence either.Khmer Rougehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08434815383922831226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-36845832005934071832010-04-26T09:27:17.515-05:002010-04-26T09:27:17.515-05:00Is there any chance that reality #2 bled into real...Is there any chance that reality #2 bled into reality #1 for Sayid? In reality #2, Sayid told Nadia that he could never see her again (opposite of what he was promised by Smoke Locke). He then had a change of heart about killing Desmond in reality #1.<br /><br />Maybe AJ's promises in reality #2 will start to unravel and those in reality #1 will realize that there is nothing better waiting for them - all "smoke and mirrors" as Brian would say.<br /><br />Regarding Ben working for AJ all this time, wouldn't Jacob have confronted Ben with the truth as he was about to be stabbed? I know I might be tempted to raise this point if I was not the one ignoring Ben for so long.Dave Hartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14788810146869823651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-57773660542933277742010-04-26T09:06:29.093-05:002010-04-26T09:06:29.093-05:00@John, I think that is a really good point/theory....@John, I think that is a really good point/theory. It does seem from all we know about MIB that Ben has been working for him all along and led to believe that he was working for Jacob. That would explain why Ben was so malicious whereas when we finally "meet" Jacob we find out that he seems like a "good guy".<br /><br />Also, does this explain the lists? The people that weren't on the list turned out to be candidates?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11430797307460558929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13498413.post-48435842287364091302010-04-26T01:02:52.142-05:002010-04-26T01:02:52.142-05:00I have no doubt the Juliet-shooting-someone-in-and...I have no doubt the Juliet-shooting-someone-in-and-outrigger scene will be shown again. I'm guessing they're holding off until the finale.<br /><br />If I had to guess who gets shot, I'd say it's Ben, Richard or Miles. It just seems like it has to be someone who wasn't in the outrigger with Juliet, because why would they shoot knowing that Juliet would shoot back?Khmer Rougehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08434815383922831226noreply@blogger.com